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Christopher -> Kenpo Nerve Strikes (Oct. 5th, 2007, 12:47:31 PM)

I found this article interesting and wanted to share. I know at my school we have learned some of the nerve strikes that are in some of our first techniques.

http://www.blackbeltmag.com/archives/142



Zoran -> RE: Kenpo Nerve Strikes (Oct. 5th, 2007, 2:11:20 PM)

I have some mixed feelings on nerve strikes. In many cases, nerve strikes need to be done a particular way to be effective. Angle of pressure and precision (nerves a very small targets). Can be usefull against more passive attacks, but you loose your edge when dealing with a very aggressive attacker you is in constant motion.

Also, I've found some people are immune to some of these strikes or pressure points. I recall several years ago I was partnered with Keith Hackney in a nerve manipulation class. His usual response to a nerve manipulation when done correctly was, "Yep, you got it." Otherwise, he would not react to the strike.



dankenpo -> RE: Kenpo Nerve Strikes (Oct. 14th, 2007, 10:25:35 PM)

I studied Ryu Kyu Kempo Tomari-Te in a George Dillman affiliated school for several years and from what I've seen, there is some great stuff in regards to pressure points, but there is also a lot of junk.

Two great videos to check out are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdrzBL2dHMI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6CPTb5qMkE

Don't get me wrong, pressure points can be an extremely effective tool in helping you escape holds and weakening an opponent, but it is better to use such points that can be utilized effectively regardless of precision, such as nerve groupings in the side of the neck, inner thigh, and jawline. It doesn't take much skill to nail some pressure points when striking these regions, knowledge of the intricacies of the points is an added bonus.



Christopher -> RE: Kenpo Nerve Strikes (Jan. 14th, 2008, 4:31:45 PM)

Now that I have more experience and learning from others, I can see that nerve strikes can be very hard and risky to perform depending on the attacker. There are many varying factors like Zoran has said also. At this point with my training I have learned mainly only to use them in holds to keep the opponent submissive. I feel it is good to know where these nerves are and what type of pain/discomfort they can cause.



ackks10 -> RE: Kenpo Nerve Strikes (Jan. 20th, 2008, 12:54:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Zoran

I have some mixed feelings on nerve strikes. In many cases, nerve strikes need to be done a particular way to be effective. Angle of pressure and precision (nerves a very small targets). Can be usefull against more passive attacks, but you loose your edge when dealing with a very aggressive attacker you is in constant motion.

Also, I've found some people are immune to some of these strikes or pressure points. I recall several years ago I was partnered with Keith Hackney in a nerve manipulation class. His usual response to a nerve manipulation when done correctly was, "Yep, you got it." Otherwise, he would not react to the strike.
   

i want say something about this, you see you and Keith were in a class  and both of you knew what was going on, it was a class. you know it is very hard to say things on here because people get the wrong ideal, and sometimes they think that you are being a butthead. this is not the case, you see when you are in a class and you TELL everyone
this is what we are workink on  everyone(i know because i have been there) will be ready for whatever happens .think about it, but make no mistake nerve strikes do work.



Zoran -> RE: Kenpo Nerve Strikes (Jan. 20th, 2008, 7:23:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ackks10
...but make no mistake nerve strikes do work.


I will say it again, nerve strike do not work on everybody. Each person is different. Just as you can strike someone in the gut and they fold like a house of cards while others may just shrug it off.

Here is an interesting example, if a bit gross. I have met a guy who getting hit in the testicles generates a reaction of pleasure (used to be a bouncer in a gentlemens club). So striking this person in the groin would only put a smile on his face.

One of the reasons almost all Kenpo/Kempo systems train for overkill is simple. We can not assume our first or second strike creates the desired reaction. Hence why we are taugt to follow up and continue until the threat is removed. So while nerve strikes are great, we can not count on it as the end all. This is why we train break bones and joints, rip and tear soft tissue areas, strike nerves, learn pressure points, practice locks and chokes, and learn a variety of other ways to manipulate and destroy the human body. So if the need ever arises, we can have all the tools necessary for our survival.

But, it is only my opinion. So take it for what it's worth.



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